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Gun-Toting Liberal said in May 9th, 2005 at 4:41 am

I’ve blogged and blogged on this topic and I cannot see one reason why God couldn’t utilize evolution to advance life forms. I see no clash here. God is powerful enough to use evolution as a means to create and refine / redefine life. Where some see two “sides”, I only see one. It’s obvious that evolution exists. People and things are constantly evolving. It is one of God’s laws in much the same sense of gravity – it’s no longer a “theory”, it exists. So since we KNOW evolution exists, those of us who want to believe in God can logically conclude that God invented evolution as a way and means to create the human, animal and plant forms of life we have on Earth now.

That is just MY theory on it.

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Jay said in May 9th, 2005 at 6:26 am

I’m gonna go with gun toting liberal on this. It is an endless debate…I don’t want to get involved in.

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cube said in May 10th, 2005 at 1:29 am

Beware of any group that is so agenda-driven that
it fears having people use critical thinking skills.

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ken grandlund said in May 10th, 2005 at 3:02 am

I guess for me, the difference between evolution theory and creationism theory is that with one you have tangible evidence that can show the progression of change through species and with the other, you simply have to trust in the omnipotence of a greater being.
While both may have value, one fits the definition of scientific instruction and the other fits the definition of religious instruction.
And while I firmly believe that all people should be exposed to religious instruction (which would explain the differences between religious thought instead of pure dogmatic indoctrination) in the same way that we are taught math or science, the two topics here, (evolution vs. creationism) belong in different curriculum and should not really be comingled.

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Denny Hix said in May 10th, 2005 at 3:23 am

The problem with so many people in this debate is that they misunderstand the word “theory.”

When used by scientists, theory is not untested and unproved or an opinion.

A scientific theory is a collection of facts that have already been tested and
proved. That’s exactly what the Theory of Evolution is. For example, gravity is
just a “theory.” The concept of flight is a “theory.”

But ideas like creationism and intelligent design don’t even rise to the level of
“theory.” Because there are no scientific facts in those collections.

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Margaret Romao Toigo said in May 10th, 2005 at 9:36 pm

cube wrote: “Beware of any group that is so agenda-driven that
it fears having people use critical thinking skills.”

To which group are you referring? Because it seems to me that there are some evolutionists out there who are just as closed-minded as young Earth creationists who want nothing whatsoever to do with Mr. Darwin.

I’m with Gun-Toting Liberal on this one. Why does it have to be “evolution versus intelligent design” when the idea behind teaching the controversy isn’t really an either/or proposition? It isn’t that Mr. Darwin got it wrong, just that he didn’t get it all (which is why belief in the theory of evolution requires a few leaps of scientific faith).

Sure Mr. Darwin made evolution and it is the most widely accepted scientific theory about the origin of life on Earth, but the question of who or what made Mr. Darwin (and the rest of us) remains.

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Scott said in May 11th, 2005 at 4:30 am

Shouldn’t Einstein’s Theory of Relativity include the same sticker being that the science of Quantum Physics somewhat refutes Einstein’s theory? There’s a difference in the term “theory” in our world as compared to the sceintific world. In science the term theory bears much more weight as compared to the literal interpretation.

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Susannity said in June 15th, 2005 at 1:54 pm

Denny and Scott have both hit the nail on the head in that the problem is with the definition of “theory”.
The phrasing of the sticker implies that theory is the opposite of fact, thereby the reader infers that
evolutionist theory is just a whacko idea that someone came up with. Most in the scientific community practically
look at scientific theory nearly on the same level as scientific law. They’re not saying it can not be updated
or that more can’t be learned, but that there is so much repeatability and substantiation, one would be absolutely
foolish, yes foolish, to simply throw it all out.

As for GTL’s comment, I applaud you for saying you believe evolution occurs. Those who believe in intelligent
design though tend not to support evolution. That is the whole point of intelligent design. The intricacy, the
whole systems, etc are so complex that they believe it is impossible that evolution could bring about such
detail. It seems mind-boggling, but mathematical statistics and some of the algorithms that have been put forth
to test such concepts have shown it’s so very possible. Anyway, that’s why intelligent design folks don’t
support any aspect of evolution. The other issue is, and always has been, what created god. That question
is inconceivable to theists as it would throw many of their beliefs into question, and that is where faith
kicks in.

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