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Temple Stark.com said in December 31st, 2005 at 9:35 pm

It will be much better for your future if you speak now while others are listening. If not, the shock wave from that next big explosion will deafen the country for a terribly long time. UPDATE 12/31 -13:39 ::: See this equally worthy post along the same lines from LandoftheFreeHomeoftheBrave.com

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Stop The ACLU said in December 19th, 2005 at 11:50 pm

direction. Alway’s On Watch talks about the same thing today. Land of the Free, Home of the Brave linked with Balancing Liberty and Security with The Patriot Ac… Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator linked with Bush let NSA listen in with no warrants BitsBlog linked with

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OTTMAN said in December 20th, 2005 at 12:31 am

Clinton Used NSA for Economic Espionage

During the 1990s, President Bill Clinton ordered the National Security Agency to use its super-secret Echelon surveillance program to monitor the personal telephone calls and private email of employees who worked for foreign companies in a bid to boost U.S. trade.

In 2000, former Clinton CIA director James Woolsey set off a firestorm of protest in Europe when he told the French newspaper Le Figaro that he was ordered by Clinton in 1993 to transform Echelon into a tool for gathering economic intelligence.

“We have a triple and limited objective,” the former intelligence chief told the French paper. “To look out for companies which are breaking US or UN sanctions; to trace ‘dual’ technologies, i.e., for civil and military use, and to track corruption in international business.”

As reported exclusively on Sunday, Echelon had been used by the Clinton administration to monitor millions of personal phone calls, private emails and even ATM transactions inside the U.S. – all without a court order.

The massive invasion of privacy was justified by Echelon’s defenders as an indispensable national security tool in the war on terror.

But Clinton officials also utilized the program in ways that had nothing to do with national security – such as conducting economic espionage against foreign businesses.

In his comments to Le Figaro, Woolsey defended the program, declaring flatly: “Spying on Europe is justified.”

“I can tell you that five years ago, several European countries were giving substantial bribes to export business more easily. I hope that’s no longer the case.”

During hearings in 2000 on the surveillance flap, Woolsey told Congress that in 1993 alone, U.S. firms obtained contracts worth $6.5 billion with the help of timely intelligence information.

The dems in congress already know all about what’s going on, have been informed many times of the NSA doing their job to root out terror in America.

Dems are just using this for political gain due to the fact that they have nothing else to offer the nation, and are actually causing great harm to our security by leaking this!

But of course liberals don’t want security, they want another 9/11 or worse to happen so they can blame Bush, right?

The DOTS were never connected prior to 9/11 because monitoring was being blocked by a WALL between security agencies set-up by Hitlery Clinton and Jamie Gorelick, which allowed terror to happen. Next time MILLIONS could be wiped out and there won’t be any liberties anymore!

Are democrats you so anti-American, anti-Bush etc., that they can’t see what is needed to protect this nation from the enemy?

Democraps want to wreck all the work that’s been done since 9/11 because they’re only about themselves and their pleasure while raping the people of their money through higher taxes and bigger government! MONEY AND POWER are all democrats care about because they’re shallow!

Liberals are so damn stupid that they would rather have their liberties protected than stop terrorists from killing millions with WMD’s.

That is why democraps can NEVER-EVER be trusted with America’s security again…. EVER!

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Margaret Romao Toigo said in December 20th, 2005 at 7:42 am

What? Because something similar happened during the Clinton administration that makes what Mr. Bush did okay?

Really, OTTMAN, haven’t you noticed by now that I am non-partisan?

What’s really interesting is that, in this article I wrote about the Patriot Act, I only briefly mentioned President Bush having secretly authorized the NSA to spy on people in the United States. But that brief, yet relevant, mention is what’s getting all the attention.

Seeing as how I have already read these same allegations — in nearly the same form — in several other forums, if I was one of those conspiracy theorists I might suspect that you had been dispatched to perform “damage control” with your dissemination of 1990s “news.”

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wally said in December 21st, 2005 at 1:55 pm

Nuke Iran now before its too late for all of us.

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Margaret Romao Toigo said in December 21st, 2005 at 2:03 pm

How is Iran relevant to this issue?

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ariadneK said in December 28th, 2005 at 8:03 pm

A “choice” between either Tyrrany or Fear?!? Hell, the ONLY thing I “fear” is the tyrrany we are subject to under the current American regime.

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Margaret Romao Toigo said in December 28th, 2005 at 8:11 pm

I hear you, ariadnek. Those are the choices, regardless of how unpopular it might be to say so. Tyranny scares me more than terrorism, too.

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ariadneK said in December 29th, 2005 at 7:20 pm

(Hey, my blog is kind of odd, but do you mind if I link to you?)

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Margaret Romao Toigo said in December 29th, 2005 at 7:24 pm

Link away. I have added yours to my blogroll.

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ariadneK said in December 31st, 2005 at 3:20 am

thanks! :-)

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Andrew Watson said in March 3rd, 2006 at 12:52 am

Wake up America! The real danger is not from Arab terrorism but from sections of your own administration who are taking ever more draconian powers to themselves and using events such as 911 to justify it. Doesn’t it worry you that there are now 800 concentration camps being built, each capable of holding 20,000 people? Who are they for? The ‘terrorists’, or for honest citizens who question the course of their own government? Soon it will be too late to do anything. You may not realise it, but this is a situation not unike Germany in the 30s when an elected party became a dictatorship and blamed outsiders for the ills of the country. Here in Europe we look on in helpless horror at the slide into nuclear insanity in Iran. I am deadly serious .

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Mattias Bergren said in May 5th, 2006 at 11:52 am

Germany in the 30s…yeah right!

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